[sadgirl]

Is loving someone enough to get you through anything and everything? Is it foolish to hope that it might be?

[ms mono]

it's hard to answer without more information - which you might not want to give on a public forum


it's not at all foolish to hope, the question is - do you think it's enough?

lxx

[sadgirl]

I have always believed that it was enough. But it seems to carry so much sadness with it right now.

[ms mono]

thinking about it more

in theory 'love conquers all' and 'all you need is love'

tru love means being able to accept the loved one as they are and forgive them their mistakes. yet I feel you have to balance that against your right to be treated as you'd like to be and to 'refuse' behaviour you find unacceptable.

i'm sorry you're sad

cyber hugs coming your way

lx

[the original tiger perry]

Why sadness?

[inputJunkey]

oh dear :(

as long as the love is coming from both parties, love will find a way

hope things improve for you

[sadgirl]

Sadness because if you trust someone with your heart you might find that was a foolish decision to make. That they forget how to treat it with respect... that they don't cherish it enough.

[Digitonal]

sometimes.

not always.

yes.

no.

love's deep and wide and many different things to different people. I hope that things get easier for you and that you work it out.

[ms mono]

sadgirl, on 27 Oct 2005, 20:51, said:

I have always believed that it was enough. But it seems to carry so much sadness with it right now.

Will the sadness pass? Is it a fair price to pay for what you may gain in the long run? Love can bring sadness. And, sometimes love means letting go .................... Is it unrequieted love?
do they deserve your love?

i have to go out now, there aren't as many many people as usual around tonight otherwise i'm sure you'd be inundated with cyber love and support

good luck

Love is never easy either : )

lxxxxxx

[the original tiger perry]

sadgirl, on 27 Oct 2005, 21:55, said:

Sadness because if you trust someone with your heart you might find that was a foolish decision to make. That they forget how to treat it with respect... that they don't cherish it enough.

Yeah, that can happen. Just remember to enjoy it while it lasts.

You may get hit by a bus tomorr...

[ms mono]

[tange]

I was going to post the following:

Quote

Dump the bastard. I'm available for cheap & meaningless sex. I'm a crap shag and have poor personal hygine, but you sound like you might put up with any old bozo

but I decided it might give the impression that I am callous. This would be true, but theres no need for everyone to know.

[sadgirl]

Thanks for that, tange. That was certainly a perspective I'd missed up until you pointed it out!

[tange]

The sun will shine again. Maybe not tomorrow, but it will shine again.

[DanBuc]

I have thought about this a lot recently and I eventually came to the decision that love is never enough. And the reason that love isn't enough is; love isn't the thing you put into a realtionship. Love is something you get back, love is the reward you reap from the hard work that relationships can and will be.

Making a relationship work requires communication, sharing, perseverance, respect, compassion, patience and a whole host of other things. And these are all things that both partners have to work on putting into a relationship and most importantly they are things that both people need to feel are reciprocated. It's a large emotional investment and it's hard but (usually) positive work. Only if you've got all those pieces have you got any basis from which love can develop or continue. Love is the return on what you put back into a relationship.

If some part of the relationship is missing or isn't sufficiently reciprocated you can't just rely on the love that's developed to fill the gap. The love that one of you is feeling will quickly wane or be poisoned. And if that starts to happen you have to do something about it. Sometimes that can be straight forward and sometimes it's tough, it's not always easy for someone to hear that 'in actual fact they're neglecting some aspect of their relationship and neglecting the one they love'.

[Mel's blue rug]

Love can only help you find a way if you want to find it in my opinion. There are very few problems that can't be sorted out if tw people love each other enough to find the middle ground.

There are some rules I follow to try to keep the relationship I have with my other half as uncomplicated as possible (though sometimes I forget them and sometimes - like tonight - he just annoys me anyway).

1. Do not accept anything from your lover that you would not accept from a friend. Likewise do not expect anything of you lover thay you would not expect from a friend.

2. It is better to be happy than to be right.

3. Everyone has a line that should not be crossed. Draw your line but then acknowledge that anything up to that lin you can learn to live with.

I dunno if that helps or not but I wish you luck - whatever you decide.

Mel
xx

[tange]

Love doormat?

[tange]

Hope I'm not being too acid tonight. It's kindly (if perversely) meant. Sometimes a bit of a fight is a good thing. Sometimes anger will get you to a better place than sadness will.

Of course it often just fcuks things up, so don't take me any more seriously than I deserve

[mavis]

sadly not.

i broke up with someone i loved more then anything else and who loved me too. Who i wanted to spend the rest of my life with. But it just wasn't working and it turned out that wasn't to be. We were making each other unhappy more then happy.

And it really does hurt desperately, there are times when i'm astounded by how much...but at the same time through the hurt i think/hope i'm starting to see more balance in my mind and some new happiness in my life...

Good luck in whatever choice you make,

moving on mavis x